Moto Guzzi V100

Bulldog9 wrote:

Looking at the placement of the alternator, any concern about it overheating being on the heated downdraft side of the cyls and radiator, especially tucked under the tank? Seems it would be a very hot and unforgiving location.

It's likely much cooler than hanging behind the radiator of one of my John Deeres. They seem to last forever.

The first ride review video I've seen. Looks pretty sweet to me, can't wait to road test one myself.

And another test from the South Coast of UK -
It is 0 to 2 degrees C here at the moment so not much bend-swinging

Looks like the seat height will be ok for shortarses like me
Lets see what the lanky testers from the UK press say about comfort for you tall guys out there

...and is that the same pearlescent white as GRiSO?

Street wrote:

The first ride review video I've seen. Looks pretty sweet to me, can't wait to road test one myself.

There have been several Italy based YouTube videos, but it's a pain tried to watch them with translated subtitles.

Somebody from the AnimaGuzzista forum was curious:

Just downloaded the manual from AF1. Yes, to change the valve shims requires you to pop the timing chest off the front of the motor to lock the crank with a pin prior to removing the cams.

Good news is that the tolerance for valve clearance is quite large at about 4 thou between max and min so they shouldn't need shims swapping very often. Just as well as I expect the radiator and god knows what else will have to come off to get to the timing chest!

Pete Roper wrote:

Just downloaded the manual from AF1. Yes, to change the valve shims requires you to pop the timing chest off the front of the motor to lock the crank with a pin prior to removing the cams.

That seems foolish there must be places where a rod could go in from the side to meet a socket on the crank web.

Nah, you need to tension the primary chain with a dead stop to ensure correct cam timing. I thought just sticking a hole in the timing chest and using a longer pin would be fine for locking the crank but you'd still need to remove the timing chest cover to install the dead stop.

what's the little spring on the camshaft for?

How the fuck would I know? The manual doesn't tell us so is it really a spring or does it just look like one?

When I actually get to see one of these great lumps of munt I may be able to work it out. Before that it's all magical thinking and unicorn ivory!

(Edit.)

Actually, taking another look it might be a decompressor for starting.

lcjohnny wrote:

. . . I don't want a Quickshifter . . .

Why not, may I ask?

Less stress on the Engine, Clutch, Gearbox, Shaft, and Final Drive.
More 'relaxed' riding, better acceleration when required, I see no downsides.

I love the Quickshifter on my Stelvio, wouldn't want to ride without it now.

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sideshowbob wrote:

It is obvious to me, that Guzzi are positioning themselves for future models based on a common base.
The big block is dead as we knew it - now replaced by the V100 - who's not to say there might be a capacity increase in the future (don't look but look at the GS line from that Cherman mob) along with improved numbers.
It has always been the way of Guzzi to have plenty of torque available to do the job, not about maximum numbers of some manky dyno, at unusable revs on the road. . .

Couldn't agree more, but is it too-little-too-late?
In the UK at least, the plan is to ban the sale of Petrol/Diesel vehicles by 2030.
If more Countries follow suit, will any Company bother developing ICEs any further, especially a relatively small Company like MG?

Doc. wrote:

lcjohnny wrote:

. . . I don't want a Quickshifter . . .

Why not, may I ask?

(1) Because i have learnt the skill of changing gear and i want to keep excercising that skill.

(2)most upwards quick shifters just cut ignition for a set number of ms. Unless they use a lot of computing power or electronic throttle i see no good reason why they wont be harder on the gear dogs than old fashioned people gearchanges. Fine on a racing bike where everything is a consumable if you win. But no good on aong term road bike.

(3) i don't want more complication and failure points on my motorcycles

lcjohnny wrote:

(1) Because I have learnt the skill of changing gear and I want to keep exercising that skill.

(2) Most upwards quick shifters just cut ignition for a set number of ms. Unless they use a lot of computing power or electronic throttle I see no good reason why they wont be harder on the gear dogs than old fashioned people gearchanges. Fine on a racing bike where everything is a consumable if you win. But no good on a long term road bike.

(3) I don't want more complication and failure points on my motorcycles

1. Fair enough, but you don't have to stop your normal riding habits when you have one. I still use the Clutch when I'm bimbling around Town.

2. Cutting the Ignition for a split-second (it's default setting is around 60m/s, but it's fully adjustable for Time and Sensitivity) lets the Gear Dogs engage more smoothly than 99% of Riders can manage with Clutchless changes, and using the Clutch doesn't always guarantee a smooth time for the Dogs.

3. Modern Electronics are just about fail-safe, do you worry about your Fuel Injection/ABS/Ignition failing?
   Even if it did fail, it wouldn't stop you changing Gear 'normally', the Sensor is essentially just a solid Link Rod.

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Pete Roper wrote:

but you'd still need to remove the timing chest cover to install the dead stop.

Gee, maybe a small access cover would be in order

I think this is all a bit academic anyway.

Shims are on top of the Valves, no Buckets, so no need to remove the Cams . . .

PM me your email addy Mr.W. The cams have to come out.

Quickshifter. I want one. Me likey. Nothing about it on the Ghetto. Apparently you can program them with a phone app?

Changed brake and clutch fluids today. Had to do the front lines twice, because I'm a monkey and let air in the lines... I plugged in a Motodemic LED headlight (EVO) 2 days ago - I don't think it looks right (the bucket is short and the Dart screen overhangs it), but it does a better job, so it can stay, I guess.

I am so stuck with this GRiSO - warts and all. (Just realized that this has nothing to do with a V100 thread except that as more time goes by with the GRiSO, the less likely I am to ever settle for a V100).

2023 Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello | What I DONT Like About This Bike!
https://youtu.be/1UAqDipHKm4?t=304

Relatively minor niggles, it seems, except that oil dipstick filler cap that you can only open when the bike is perfectly upright. That seems VERY unpractical, especially given the absence of a centre stand (although that is available as add-on and I guess that most buyers will buy after the sales-guy has finished with his speech).

The fact that you can only fill up fuel relatively slowly through a very narrow fuel tank opening seems common on modern motorcycles. Not sure why that is the case.  It is nice and wide on my retro Honda CB1100.

bioman wrote:

Relatively minor niggles, it seems, except that oil dipstick filler cap that you can only open when the bike is perfectly upright. That seems VERY unpractical, especially given the absence of a centre stand (although that is available as add-on and I guess that most buyers will buy after the sales-guy has finished with his speech).

The fact that you can only fill up fuel relatively slowly through a very narrow fuel tank opening seems common on modern motorcycles. Not sure why that is the case.  It is nice and wide on my retro Honda CB1100.

An oil sight glass would be nice. Big deal.

My GRiSO has a narrow opening for the fuel too. Big deal.

If those are the worst parts of the V100, I think it will work just fine.

MG has emailed people who have ordered V100s to let them know bikes are to be delivered to the dealers in the next couple weeks.

Seems they are here from AF1--------------------------

Thank Christ for that! Now perhaps the interwebs wont be full of whining numpties carrying on like little girls with sand in their 'ginas about how unfair it is that the bikes went on sale in other markets before the US. Yes, it's frustrating if you are eagerly awaiting a new toy but bugger me lonesome the amount of entitled whining beggars belief!

Next of course will be all the whining about tiny perceived problems that most likely don't exist but once mentioned by one plonker will be picked up on and repeated endlessly until myth becomes fact!

Prats, why don't they all sod off and buy BMW's? They'd be a lot happier!

Arse.

Come on Pete, don't hold back.

Tell us how you really feel.

He won't unless he is surrounded by us lackeys and lickspittles at the local pub. Then he will cut loose and we will all nod sagely, as no untruth come from the mouth of Roper-San.

FFS he already tells it like it is - what more do you need. A spade is a spade.