Moto Guzzi V100

Aaaand.....
We're still waiting..

Hello,

it has been announced that information about the productions will be available in autumn 2022.
I hope to receive information about the 101st anniversary in September
and will be in Mandello del Lario.

In addition, the problem of many supply chains burdens the production of many car and motorbike factories.

So I think all this will not make it easier for Moto Guzzi.

When the V100 goes into production, it will also be good to use the time available for quality testing.
Maybe also expand the segment?
Because with a sports tourer, the niche is not particularly large.
So let's hope together.

Holger

I'm loving my newly purchased 2v Sport 1200 but I had very serious thoughts of buying a GRiSO to get the 4v/8v engine. Was actually quite close last week, but was under the weather and didn't have it it me for a 16 hour roundtrip to the seller. Maybe I'll keep my powder dry and look hard at the V100. (if it's ever released)

September 2022 Moto Guzzi Mandello del Lario Meeting

Cycle World:
https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-reviews/moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-first-ride-review-2023/





233 kg

Where have the black exhaust headers in all the earlier pics gone???

Brent S wrote:

Where have the black exhaust headers in all the earlier pics gone???

I liked the black, but kinda don't mind the polished.

I'm not sure of the bit of red behind the wings. Small thing though. I'm very much liking the bike.

Agree about the red behind the wings. Looks slightly odd. Perhaps silver would have matched other parts of the bike a bit more. Concur its hardly a deal-breaker though.

The YouTube review seems to support the notion of a very tractable power and torque delivery (and good fueling) which would be great. Suspension performance will only really be known once the bike is taken away from the billiard-table smooth conditions and onto patchy secondary roads.

If I have a niggling concern its about the ergonomics. All the images thus far seem to show a fairly short distance between the seat and the foot pegs, with a fairly high knee position. Wonder how riders 6 foot & over will find it?

In a german test video was said that the rim being black at the better "s-version". That's not good news. The silver -golden rims make the look beautiful at first. The color of the rims also matched the cylinder heads.

Didn’t notice the rims until you mentioned it. The original gold ones were beautiful. Pity if they opt for black which is what every other bike has.

Brent S wrote:

Didn’t notice the rims until you mentioned it. The original gold ones were beautiful. Pity if they opt for black which is what every other bike has.

Agreed - although as you say i did not notice it at first

Jon G

Soundcheck:

Sounds like it could use a Beetle map.

Sounded like a wet fart.

Hmmmmmm……..that exhaust sound wasn’t ideal in that clip. Dare I say it, sort of reminded me of a BMW boxer engine with some half-arsed excuse for a “sports” pipe installed. Hoping it sounds better in real life.

He wasn't exactly giving it the berries, either.

It may sound good to the rider? Really that's all that matters now that research has shown that other road users don't hear where you are from a noisy exhaust, they just get annoyed.

Unless there are people you just want to annoy...

Not in my future -- I think -- but I like (almost) everything about the V100.

Bill

beetle wrote:

He wasn't exactly giving it the berries, either.

agreed -the rider needed to drop it down a gear or two
higher RPM's would be a true sound check

It's funny. In some ways it's looks have grown on me but there are a whole load of things that concern me and a whole lot more that make me think I won't enjoy it that much when I do ride it.

The things that concern me are stuff like the stupid winglets and dorky headlight. Also active or semi active suspension and all the crap like TFT screens and Bluetooth connectivity. Stuff like the winglets and suspension are asking to become nightmares a few years down the track. Connectivity is something that is fine in a car but on a bike I'd find it detracting from the riding experience. Shit! I don't even listen to music when I'm riding. The bike is the *experience* for me! Even doing somewhere like the Hay Plains the sound of the working machine is all I need, in fact at a semi legal cruise I can barely hear the GRiSO's engine but I know I can engage with it by laying with the throttle and gears if I wish!

My guess is that the V100 will in almost every identifiable way be a 'Better' motorbike than my Grisos. Thing is, like virtually every other modern motorbike it will be pretty characterless and soulless. I already find this with most of the big, popular, machines be they from Ducati, KTM, BMW or any of the Japanese brands. Sure they are in many cases insanely powerful and handle and brake way beyond my abilities to test but at the same time they leave me feeling disconnected and uninvolved. I expect the V100 to be the same.

Look, that seems to be what people want nowadays. That's fine, but it's not for me. As I drift off into retirement and irrelevance I'll be sticking with what I've got. And when my current bikes get too big and heavy? Well I'll just go for something smaller and lighter. Hopefully by that time there will be an alternative to a conventional IC engine to provide the motive power.

Pete, I agree with nearly all you wrote. I spent a lot of years operating big, loud, machinery, and don't care to be distracted by music or screens. The pureness of the ride is my escape.

I have a Honda CBR-XX that never gets ridden. I traded in two BMW's for the GRiSO. It speaks to me.

If they build a stripped down V-100, without the silly electronic gee-gaws, I might consider it. But for now, if the GRiSO ever dies, I'll either find another, or get a Motus.

Pete Roper wrote:

It's funny. In some ways it's looks have grown on me but there are a whole load of things that concern me and a whole lot more that make me think I won't enjoy it that much when I do ride it.

The things that concern me are stuff like the stupid winglets and dorky headlight. Also active or semi active suspension and all the crap like TFT screens and Bluetooth connectivity. Stuff like the winglets and suspension are asking to become nightmares a few years down the track. Connectivity is something that is fine in a car but on a bike I'd find it detracting from the riding experience. Shit! I don't even listen to music when I'm riding. The bike is the *experience* for me! Even doing somewhere like the Hay Plains the sound of the working machine is all I need, in fact at a semi legal cruise I can barely hear the GRiSO's engine but I know I can engage with it by laying with the throttle and gears if I wish!

My guess is that the V100 will in almost every identifiable way be a 'Better' motorbike than my Grisos. Thing is, like virtually every other modern motorbike it will be pretty characterless and soulless. I already find this with most of the big, popular, machines be they from Ducati, KTM, BMW or any of the Japanese brands. Sure they are in many cases insanely powerful and handle and brake way beyond my abilities to test but at the same time they leave me feeling disconnected and uninvolved. I expect the V100 to be the same.

Look, that seems to be what people want nowadays. That's fine, but it's not for me. As I drift off into retirement and irrelevance I'll be sticking with what I've got. And when my current bikes get too big and heavy? Well I'll just go for something smaller and lighter. Hopefully by that time there will be an alternative to a conventional IC engine to provide the motive power.

Pete I agree with everything you say.

With the caveat that i think electric vehicles (as currently done) are a dead end that cause worse environmental and political problems than digging up and burning dead dinosaurs

I in no way think that electric vehicles are necessarily the long term solution but at the moment the most mportant thing is that we stop burning fossil fuel. To that end embracing electric, even if only as a stopgap, seems like the most viable option at this time.

The idea of having a TFT screen attached to my handlebars is 100per cent abhorrent to me.

The idea of linking my phone up to my bike so that I can what...? chat while I ride... thanks to a bluetooth receiver right next to my brain is equally unappealing.

But hey, I don't even have a smartphone, I've never done social media and I try to keep to a maximum of 20 minutes of computer time per day.

The bike is sure as fck one place I could do with being away from yet another poxy screen.

Rider modes etc? whatever..... I'd rather take the time to really learn my bikes capabilities over a variety of conditions. Seems if I had 4 or 5 different modes in play, I'd be learning 5 different maps.

I don't know, all I would want from a new bike is good suspension, good looks, a rush of acceleration, proper wind protection and comfort for my pillion.

I'm still tentatively excited about the new guzzi though.

With all respect to my fellow Ghetto members, you sound just like these old farts over at Wildguzzi.com.

Here is Moto Guzzi finally coming with a modern motorcycle that may or may not look beautiful, depending on the eye of the beholder. Its sound may be perfect or too loud or too soft, again depending on the preferences of the rider. For all we know at this moment the bike is very nice to ride, with an engine that has more than enough power to make virtually all riders very happy.

So what do the Ghetto members complain about? The TFT screen (instead of a round dial?), the presence of Bluetooth, rider modes, the (admittedly silly) 'windflaps', the too fancy suspension, the suspicion that the bike is refined & smooth and (as a result?) does not show enough 'character'.

Most of these complaints are very easily fixable: just don't use the Bluetooth, the rider modes, and those stupid windflaps. Problem solved.  Don't change the suspension once dialed in. And slide a Akrapovic or whatever semi-legal pipe on it, so you can wake up your neighbours.

My only criticism is that this bike comes too late. MG should have put all their money on an (affordable but good-looking) electric bike. That would have sold better. As it is, they have very few years left to put this fine engine in better-looking bodies.