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waterbottle
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What a huge contact patch you have cheers
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Bush engineered my Guzzi pannier racks to work with Stucchi and no pork chops.


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Bill Hagan
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Wow, Bill, I don't think I have ever seen a tidier garage and a shinier GRiSO.  How do you do that?


I actually detailed the GRiSO AFTER that pic. Yes, I'm serious.  Rolling Eyes

As is usually the case -- with the exception of the benefits of a close cleaning revealing loose fasteners, etc. -- it was a waste of time. The GRiSO is destined to get much messier soon, as, on Friday, I am riding it with two other Guzzisti to the West Virginia rally at Pipestem.  The weather reports are daunting, at least for launch day, and make me relate to what you PNW types endure much of the year, [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

OBTW, Kathi is, "as we speak," on a plane out to Seattle for two weeks with one set of our grands, so I can play a bit unsupervised.  Wink

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Better get a coffee (or a beer first); even more pix and captions than I usually foist upon my victims. Very Happy

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mark111 wrote:
Rode it, Old Road north of Sydney
Yes the tyres are correctly inflated.

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Impressive ... and annoying, as the only time I've leaned over that far it kept on going down ... on the road, not down the road. Embarassed

OBTW, what helmet are you wearing?

Bill
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Papa Lazarou
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I am informed that my GRiSO will return to me on 5th November. Guy Fawkes night. How apt.
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Papa , Best of luck , hope it comes back nice Thumbs Up

Bill H, I think your workshop shows you have a very disturbed mind Razz , Very nice Bill, I will have to get a "Round Tuit" and clean mine up Laughing
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GRiSO got new tires today (PR4's).  Makes an enormous difference.  Going in to a curve is a joy again.

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Yup got the PR4's on both my Italian bikes .... great road feel and handling with long tire life .... best tires I have had on Duc so far .... GRiSO is first new set replacing clapped out Bridgestones , that came on it ....
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mark111
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Bill,
My helmet is a Shark Vision R series 2 - from recollection the pattern is an Escapade, quite comfortable for my head and reasonably quiet with an internal flip down tinted visor. I like shark helmets and have a couple, my last vision R saved my head from being beaten up when I had my big crash in 2014.
Very coincidental this picture, not posed and was taken by a random photographer.
There are a few who frequent this road reasonably regularly and some post pictures on the net for sale as part of their business.
Only caught this guy out of the corner of my eye as I was busy looking where I was going.
My wife was on Facebook Sunday night and had a look at the NSW Guzzi club Facebook site and saw the picture. A number of fellow club members were asking who it was and were concerned the tyres were under inflated, I have no idea who posted it but being the wanker I am I had to copy and save it so I can admire how cool I look.
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Put in all fresh fluids and filters, and checked valve lash (still spot on).  Next to balance the TBs and reset the TPS.

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Buy less expensive oil same spec and you will have a few dollars for a good pedicure and sandals that fit Wink

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Steak, not to raise a stink, but that's a roller and aren't those the feeler gauges for the flat tappet motors?
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Pulled the fairing off and got my jollies riding nekkid. Then cursed it when the throttle kept sticking. Pulled the Kaoko throttle lock off. Instant free throttle. Changed the clock for daylight saving, then had a panic attack when the dash displayed the ECU disconnected icon. affraid
Key off-on fixed that. Shocked


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I had my first GRiSO "Fail to proceed". Wheeled the 1100 out to the road to go to work at 1/4 past 5 in the mornin. Start the bike,steady idle put mi hat and gloves on ,throw a leg over....no headlight. Fuck. Put him back in the shed and get the 1200 out. Yahoo. Now to replace the blown bulb.
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Nothing but I finally fixed the Little Bastard (TU250X).
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Dilliw wrote:
Steak, not to raise a stink, but that's a roller and aren't those the feeler gauges for the flat tappet motors?

That depends upon who you listen to and what you read I guess. Ultimately it's probably user preference.

Some folks say 0.004/0.006 others say 0.006/0.008.

As far as I know the Moto Guzzi world spec. for the 8V roller engine is 0.006/0.008, but I don't think 0.004/0.006 would cause any real problem.

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'cept the mapping has been done for one, and not t'other. Mr Beetle and/or Mr Roper will probably chime in on the whys...
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The gaps in the rollers open up appreciably as they heat up. All my maps were built (and all roller gaps set at MotoModa) are 0.1mm & 0.15mm (4 & 6 thou).

I have posted a disclaimer on my website. If you don't want to set your roller gaps to 4 & 6 thou, don't buy a roller map. I will not provide support for any bike not running these gaps.



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The 8V is remarkably sensitive to valve clearance changes. As Mark sez all his maps are built for 6 & 8 and will run optimally with those clearances. Steve is I believe running one of the Mistral maps on his bike with another pipe. That might explain why it works with the bigger clearances.

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beetle wrote:
The gaps in the rollers open up appreciably as they heat up. All my maps were built (and all roller gaps set at MotoModa) are 0.1mm & 0.15mm (4 & 6 thou).

I have posted a disclaimer on my website. If you don't want to set your roller gaps to 4 & 6 thou, don't buy a roller map. I will not provide support for any bike not running these gaps.



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Hey Mark ............. is that 4 and 6 aply to all roller motors...GRiSO / Norge / Stelvio ?

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AH Head wrote:

Hey Mark ............. is that 4 and 6 aply to all roller motors...GRiSO / Norge / Stelvio ?



Yep.


Of course I reserve the right to be obstreperous and be contrary when it suits.


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Yup, despite their differences in appearance all the 1200's use essentially the same engine. Once they went to rollers they are all identical in every way. Even the Cali 14's use the same cams. There is only one cam profile.

Differences in performance and behaviour are all down to gearing and mapping. Apart from that all the 1200's are interchangeable.

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Thanks guys for making that clear.

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Steak wrote:
Dilliw wrote:
Steak, not to raise a stink, but that's a roller and aren't those the feeler gauges for the flat tappet motors?

That depends upon who you listen to and what you read I guess.  Ultimately it's probably user preference.

Some folks say 0.004/0.006 others say 0.006/0.008.

As far as I know the Moto Guzzi world spec. for the 8V roller engine is 0.006/0.008, but I don't think 0.004/0.006 would cause any real problem.

Got ya. I am running Mark's map so maybe that's where I got it from.
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Hey Mark.

Not sure you want to get into this here but what would the consequences be if your maps are running on a 6 and 8 setting?........... Not sure what my Norge was set at last time is all.

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