Luggage, again.

Got the tank ring on Friday and trimmed the filler hole while there. After long deliberations I went with the 4 liter 3D603 found cheaply online. It hard-shell and unobtrusive and is good for a packed lunch and glasses. I have a Givi dry bag I run on a Ventura rack and a huge Ortlieb bag I need to make a platform for.
The 604 looked ugly in the utubes and most cut out the inner bag of the XS 307.

Thinking of cutting up the big Guzzi bag and mounting a ring to it. How to do it while retaining back pack straps......hmmm

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Steak wrote:

Waiting with bated breath...  C'mon Turkey Transit!

Alas, I still have to order up a tankbag...  Still leaning towards the 15L 3D604, but would be interested in seeing photos of the 3D603 on the GRiSO as well as any of your impressions.

What's going on with your tank Beets?  Looks like a paint problem, or is it just a weird photo?

I have the 3D603 and it's just big enough for glasses, gloves,soft cap, scarf, socks, shorts, glove liners, condoms. I have a Iphone 6 and with my case on the phone, it's a tight fit. If I could find a used or on sale 3D604, I'd rather have that for the extra room for a sweat shirt/sweatpants and flip flops.

What's going on with your tank Beets?  Looks like a paint problem, or is it just a weird photo?

Yes it is a paint problem, but not with the bike. What you are seeing is a reflection in GRiSO's perfectly polished gloss black paint, of the flaky paint on his garage ceiling.

Seems all this data logging and tuning is keeping Mr Beetle from some of his household responsibilities. I'd prefer to ride the bike too ........................

ghezzi wrote:

Yes it is a paint problem, but not with the bike. What you are seeing is a reflection in GRiSO's perfectly polished gloss black paint, of the flaky paint on his garage ceiling.

Will you fucken give it a rest? You don't like my ceiling, come and paint yourself.

odder wrote:

Got the tank ring on Friday and trimmed the filler hole while there. After long deliberations I went with the 4 liter 3D603 found cheaply online. It hard-shell and unobtrusive and is good for a packed lunch and glasses. I have a Givi dry bag I run on a Ventura rack and a huge Ortlieb bag I need to make a platform for.
The 604 looked ugly in the utubes and most cut out the inner bag of the XS 307.

Thinking of cutting up the big Guzzi bag and mounting a ring to it. How to do it while retaining back pack straps......hmmm

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Thinking out loud here, what if you added the mount to a section of thick Kydex or aluminium; put four slots on the outer edge for the GRiSO bag to latch onto using the standard straps. Then you can twist off the whole affair or if you like, use the backpack straps.

It gets a bit wonky because the shape of the guzzi bag mount assumes the plate is contured like the tank, but you could proto type it up with hardboard/Masonite to see if you could live with it.

Which has got me thinking now......

Does any one sell the ring part so you could convert an existing non-Givi bag?

rboe wrote:

Thinking out loud here, what if you added the mount to a section of thick Kydex or aluminium; put four slots on the outer edge for the GRiSO bag to latch onto using the standard straps. Then you can twist off the whole affair or if you like, use the backpack straps.

It gets a bit wonky because the shape of the guzzi bag mount assumes the plate is contured like the tank, but you could proto type it up with hardboard/Masonite to see if you could live with it.

Which has got me thinking now......

Not a bad idea! My first though was to just cut off the pack straps and find a tanklock part from one of the larger bags. The backstraps would be handy but the ring would cut into your back so wearing the bag in reverse would be better. Your slotted plate gets around that
Reality is I'd be more prone to use courier straps over backpack

Thing is, the big GRiSO bag has a wider opening than the givi tank locks which is good for documents and such. The factory tank bra will fit with Onur's ring given it replaces the bezel so that's an option but you're still dealing with straps and and slow release.

Just screw a tank ring to the middle of you back, and throw the straps away.

Ah, simple solution

just got off the phone with two GIVI customer service reps to ask if they would sell the red release mechanism and mount plate for the inside of an old tankbag to adapt it to the Tanklock system. They said no. I said what happens if one of their bags breaks. They said they don't replace broken parts. These were the USA distributors, one on the east coast and one in Western states. Perhaps GIVI in Italy would, but they couldn't say. I don't speak Italian, capish?

Good job fellas, with the pics.

I have been trying to work out what will best suits my needs. This has really helped me out with giving me an idea of what I need to get.

Currently I have been just using an assortment of backpacks when commuting, depending on what I need at work that day and if I am going to the gym afterwards (not so much lately   ).

I am wanting to do more day tripping soon with a mixture of riding & hiking and will be wanting to take some camera gear along to capture the scenery and maybe do a bit of moto blogging - A bit self indulgent, but I have a habit of trying to kill as many birds with the least number of stones.

Cheers Taz

Ralf z just let me know about these little beauties. I just bought one.

Givi tank lock mounts.

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Buy 'me here: CLICKY

Just ordered this! Thanks for finding it! Now my old Craig Vetter Bagman can be in the wind once again!

Thanks!

I've decided I don't particularly like the Saddlemen tunnel bag I bought. So, I got my box and decided  to think outside it. A quick rip around the block didn't show any issues, so I'll be using this on the Ghetto Australis run in two weeks.


I got a longer strap and stitched it to the bag seat attachment with some serving material from my archery kit. It has an extremely high tensile strength.


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I then attached one of the Givi bag storage rings to it.

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A couple of stretchy straps in case of disaster and it's good to go.

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My givi ring also arrived. Watching comments from you all before taking plunge on a bag..

Re other bags : Have a Cortech tailbag for commuting. Works great and sort of flat briefcase style so works well for laptop / docs etc though always a little nervous re: security of hanging onto the under-seat posts in case strap tension eases off at all- - anyone replaced the posts with anything more positive to hook to ?

Have also just got a Kriega US-30. Not sure if anyone has used one ? Short tie straps attach to bike frame under seat really neatly and can tuck back under seat when not using. Bag then clips on /off easily to the loops of the tie straps. So far all looks great / secure and I like that the straps don't cross over and rub on the panels.  Its a dry bag setup so doesn't have access for ready use stuff but looks like you can easily add other bags in sort of modular way. Will post photo's of setup once back from Darwin and have 4 day trip to Esperance / Albany etc this weekend so will report back on its first test....  

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Hey 89,

Just curious where the top picture of your bike was taken. Looks exactly like the Finger Lakes region of upstate NY. where I grew up.

That pic was at the Quabbin Reservoir in western Mass.

Got my flange from Germany today.

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It's identical to the flange on one of my Givi bags, even down to the 'patent pending'.


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Proof of concept mount to my original Guzzi bag.



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What a cool idea.  Looks like you may have bought the last one from that ebay site , there will be others , I'll flick him a message to see if they can do another run of them. Sure beats all of those shitty straps on mine.

Looks good! Just the right size for six pack. Coincidence? I wouldn't be too sure...

Actually, you can fit fifteen in. Two sixpacks and there's room for at least three betwixt the packs. And yes, the lid closes.


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Them flanges have been relisted on flea bay. Seems they were popular enough. Reduced price too. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

OK, just to cover this topic after my experience on the weekend.

Bill kindly gave me his Saddleman bag that had been bequeathed to him by his brother. This weekend I used this along with my Givi tank bag for the Cabal run up to long flat. The actual mounting pad for the Saddleman is pretty crappy. A single strap that goes under the seat. Useless and insecure. The bag is held to the pad by Velcro and three feeble straps with clamp-buckles, maybe that would be adequate if the pad was secured with more than one strap but it isn't. My answer was to use a pair of short occky straps onto the upper 'D' rings on the bag, (The bag itself has so many it could easily be mistaken for an accessory from a dominatrix's dungeon!) looped around the bobbins under the tail. This rendered the bag very secure and also meant that it was a firm 'Bum-stop' behind me.

While not completely waterproof the bag worked very well. I was extremely happy with it. Kreiger make something similar that looks like it might be better still but it retails for something like $580 on fleabay. A sum I can neither justify or currently afford! Bill's freebie is a far more attractive proposition! . As far as carrying capacity is concerned it happily swallowed a couple of T-shirts, socks and chunder-wear, a jumper, waterproof trousers, a few tools, (Enough to do the valves!) lap-top, iPad, tablet, Guzzidiag cables, drugs, water bottle and puncture repair crap. Essentially most of the things required for a weekend away with the blokes! Wallet, phone and other odds and sods all slipped happily into the tank bag or pockets of my voluminous Gerbings jacket.

Really I was very happy. When the rain started pouring down I was able to fold my leather pants, (Substantial items.) and cram them in to the Saddleman instead of the waterproofs, it was a squeeze but doable. Overall it was a very nice touring set-up. I can't see myself needing much else for GRiSO. The Mana has all the carrying capacity I'll ever need while travelling with Jude so I rckon I'm pretty set for GRiSO now too.

Pete