Subject: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:53 am
Here in my neck of the woods the only dumb question is the one you don't ask so here it goes... Being a new Guzzi fan my question is... with no lower frame going below the engine what are the methods of working on the front end such as changing a tire etc. ? I have looked at youtube to try find the answer but I came up dry. Can one set a bike on its engine carefully using a jack lift of some sort like you would set a harley on its frame for instance? Just curious. Thanks BK
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:23 am
You can support the bike on its sump if you are CAREFUL. It is important to spead the load and the most commonly accepted way of doing this is with one of the stands like the factory stand or an aftermarket equivalent and then jacking the front end up by using a sheet of wood on a jack or other lifting device under the sump.
For more involved work like gearbox removal I tie down the front of bike and use a scissor lift under the sump, once again with a wooden block between it and the sump, to lift the rear end to allow removal of the relevant parts.
Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:31 am
Thanks Pete, great info... I figured common sense would play heavily on this subject. BK
waterbottle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:50 pm
Calling Beetle, did you get the bike lifter sorted , I'm after a single side lifter thingy like this one. Any one know a source here in Aus ? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:49 pm
I've got the prototype working. However, things started to bend. GRiSO is heavy.
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:30 am
Ron couldn't you whip one up yourself? Maybe put them into production at least for the north island - reckon you would sell a few...
waterbottle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:48 am
Possibly Tony, but I've enough to do before Christmas, and if they were the right price why bother.
Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:04 am
Yes true
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:31 am
Remember, the target market is Guzzi owners. That means you think of a reasonable profit, halve it, don't charge for R&D, multiply that figure by seven and subtract it from the number you first thought of.
Then quietly announce you have it ready for production and wait for the shitstorm of corn cob pipists telling you it's too expensive and then posting images on the web of their solution made from roadkill, papyrus sheeting covered in cuneiform script and the worn out motors of superannuated and long retired sex toys.
This is the way the Guzzi aftermarket works. Don't waste your time. Life is far, FAR, too short!
Pete
beetle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:16 am
Ron, I got mine from Brooky's. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Omnis GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:17 am
best description of Guzzi owners spending habits I've ever heard was Pete's : "They can peel and eat and orange without taking their hands out of their pockets" !!!!!!!!!!!!!
waterbottle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:54 am
beetle wrote:
Ron, I got mine from Brooky's. https://www.brookys.com.au
Did you buy one and modify it, At $300 it does sound a bit cheap ?
beetle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:27 pm
The stand itself seems to be functional, but as there isn't a adapter for GRiSO's, I had to manufacture my own adapter. The screw I chose for my main support pin didn't have the advertised proof load. It was allegedly Class 12.9, but methinks it was a knock-off.
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waterbottle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:36 pm
Ohhhh, that could have been nasty. Ordering me one today Done, oh boy oh boy oh boy
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Bill Hagan GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:40 pm
Pete Roper wrote:
Remember, the target market is Guzzi owners. That means you think of a reasonable profit, halve it, don't charge for R&D, multiply that figure by seven and subtract it from the number you first thought of.
Then quietly announce you have it ready for production and wait for the shitstorm of corn cob pipists telling you it's too expensive and then posting images on the web of their solution made from roadkill, papyrus sheeting covered in cuneiform script and the worn out motors of superannuated and long retired sex toys.
This is the way the Guzzi aftermarket works. Don't waste your time. Life is far, FAR, too short!
Pete
Just saw this.
So funny ... and not.
Bill
beetle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:43 pm
waterbottle wrote:
Ohhhh, that could have been nasty. Ordering me one today
You can buy mine for cheap. I think I'm going to stick with a sump stand.
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waterbottle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:42 pm
beetle wrote:
waterbottle wrote:
Ohhhh, that could have been nasty. Ordering me one today
You can buy mine for cheap. I think I'm going to stick with a sump stand.
Shit , I was a bit premature........... that hardly ever happens, honestly I'll see what sort of an adaptor I can come up with, If you still don't want it someone else will grab it ? Or pete could use it in his workshop ?
Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:33 pm
It can always be used as a bad example...
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beetle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:41 pm
S'OK. I'll carry on with the plan. Just need to get a proper rated screw.
Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:11 am
Hi,
I'm using a "Becker" stand, from the beginning I had my G12 (2010). Bought it in Germany, right from his site. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] This is the way I putting my G12 on the stand: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] And secure it with the same tool, the other way round: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] All pics from a few years back. Latest version...: [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Becker stand: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I did rebuild the adaptors, I don't like to tilt my bike just at 2 bolt heads...
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:58 am
I was thinking of marketing and selling my unique stand design but the house bricks added a lot of cost to the postage cost and the plank is a tricky size to ship [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
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Subject: Re: Proper use of stands for working on a Moto Guzzi Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:56 am
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