Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:00 am
Hello all, need some advise please. I recently purchased a 2013. It has a carbon arrow slipon. But it seams to run very lean. Pops bad during deceleration. I am not worried about fuel range. I saw something on the net called booster plug or another fuel management system called procom both under $150. Thoughts ?
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10712 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:02 am
(Sigh.) Just don't. Do a bit of research, it's been covered time and time again.
Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:11 pm
Popping can be caused from a few issues. Firstly, exhaust sealing. Secondly, state of tune - get the tools (Guzzidiag/cables - TB balancing kit) and learn how to use them and use them. Thirdly,when you have confirmed the state of tune, reset TPS, correct clearance on valves, cleared learned parameters and the problem still occurs, contact the knowledge on this site for further advice.
The How To for all of this is elsewhere on this site. Go searching.
Booster plugs add fuel to the mix and prevent the whole fueling system from working as designed. Maybe a new ECU map is needed - has there been an upgrade of the ECU map in the past, if so what/who?
Get it into a known tune state first, before going further. This gives a baseline from where you can proceed.
motor-timothy GRiSO Capo
Posts : 523 Join date : 2016-12-20
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:49 am
Maybe I just ride as a madman but I don't get much better fuel consumption than around 17km/L (with Beetle map)
If I ride 100km/h on the highway without strong wind I can get around 20.8km/L but that's not a realistic situation
lcjohnny GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1470 Join date : 2016-01-25 Age : 69
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:04 pm
Motor Timothy - i get 15Km per litre (after a beetle map) Not bad for a big last century engine Maybe not so good compared to the MT07s and KTM 790s - but its my choice.
My only concern is whether the metal bits of the engine will survive the revs i am dishing out
beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:05 pm
If you exercise your right hand above 5000 RPM, fuel consumption will increase horribly. Pootling along in 6th gear at 4000 will net you 18-20 km/l.
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YanksTT Tanabuso
Posts : 60 Join date : 2018-06-14
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:00 pm
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] GRiSO got 39 mpg on a trip for a burger
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Yahu Tanabuso
Posts : 99 Join date : 2022-02-06 Age : 60
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:26 pm
I also managed to finally install Marek's map and check the operation of the cables. For now, I only reset the TPS because my GRiSO was a Tennis Omnis from Canada, I haven't won the map yet because I ordered it.
Yahu Tanabuso
Posts : 99 Join date : 2022-02-06 Age : 60
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:38 pm
continued to the Termingnoni muffler. My observations are, however, that until I changed the muffler, fuel consumption was at the level of 6.5l/100km. After a short period of changing the muffler to the Termingnoni and the return the original fuel consumption remained at the level of 7.4 liters per 100 km. My question is whether a short-term repositioning of the muffler can increase fuel consumption so much, even when you return to the starting point? I will add that with There have been no changes to the map at this time, and the consumption is still the same as on the previously mentioned muffler. Deadline? so about 7.5-8.0 l/100 km???🥺
beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:14 pm
Yahu wrote:
I also managed to finally install Marek's map and check the operation of the cables. For now, I only reset the TPS because my GRiSO was a Tennis Omnis from Canada,
You also need to reset the autolearning parameters. It's important.
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Yahu Tanabuso
Posts : 99 Join date : 2022-02-06 Age : 60
Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:48 am
Here, I simply missed an incomplete message when I wanted to add the next part, and the translator on my phone no longer had room for this line, so I'm very sorry and added it in the second piece of information.
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Subject: Re: Fuel consumption after Beetle mapping