Subject: 6th line fork height Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:55 am
Since I am planning on installing my new clip-ons I had to sort out my ride height change before changing my steering feel with different bars. I bought these clip-ons from ebay for $60 for the pair. instead of getting the Aprilia Falco pieces for $140 per bar ($280 per pair)
My forks were at the 5th line. I had seen how wallycycle had his GRiSO forks up to the 6th line sooooooooo, I finally copied wallycycle and lowered my triple clamps from the 5th line on my forks to the 6th. I think this feels like the adjustment I needed to make. I feel much better pushing her into curves and I think I am leaning a bit deeper too. Which is what I was aiming for. A bit better comfort and confidence pushing her in and mid-corner trim adjustments.
Now for the bars. When my forks were at the 5th line they stuck out above the clamp about .750/inch. now at the 6th line they are .900/inch. The clip-on clamps are 1.250. I am going to try placing them above the clamp but I am suspect about the stability and safety of having .350/inch of the clamp missing something to grip. Which means I can be a REAL café rocker and slip my clip-ons under the triple clamp. Like GSXR 750's. And give myself horrible wrist pain. Maybe. I may have to Just Do It and find out the hard how much all of this hurts. My whole plan with the clip-ons was a sport-tourer type of position. And it might not work out with my current equipment. Time to do some more empirical learning!!
DM
beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10198 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:35 pm
I reckon if you put the clip-ons under the triple clamp the ride position will be ...weird.
raise the back end, mount under the triples same effect as raising the tubes and you do not loose ground clearence...just another alternative the clearence on the tank is gonna be a pain..or lead to one ace style bars are probably a better functional choice for the GRiSO
Uzidzit Tiradritto
Posts : 325 Join date : 2013-12-01
Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:00 am
or the old Tomesili adjustables if you can find a set...they are kind of light for the GRiSO though
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Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:16 am
DungeonMaster wrote:
ooooooooooh!! Bike porn moto lust!
I wanna make those too. As soon as I can sign my wife on to let me buy and install a CNC mill in my garage........
Don't have to go to extremes. Supply a CAD or even hand drawn with all relevant measurements, and my mate Pete will create whatever your heart desires .................... like hubs for BST wheels
DungeonMaster GRiSO
Posts : 1163 Join date : 2013-11-26 Age : 61
Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:05 am
I don't have to go to extremes. But I'm going to anyway. I am not hot and bothered to buy a mill just make myself a pair of rear-sets; I am buying a mill so I can start my own home based machine shop business.
I worked in shops for ten years and I know set-up and programming yada yada yada. And I am getting VERY DAMN ANNOYED with working for "The Man".
no just get the chance to work 24/7 for $2 an hour with no bennies, vacations, and pay 2x the social security and medicare and income tax...funny how many "friends" with no money he'll never new he had
Best way is to start it as a part-time job and charge like a wounded bull from the start. That way your only customers will be those who are willing to part with money.
If you start out real cheap just to get market share, the only share of the market you will have will be the tight arsed whingers.
Had one on Monday myself, booked me for 3pm for his convenience then bartered the price. He was very specific on the time. I turned down another profitable job because I couldn't do it and meet his deadline. Then he forgot to turn up.
So for my wasted half hour I added "dickhead tax", then he said I didn't allow him enough time to go to the bank. Fuck me!
He cries poor but has 3 Ducatis worth $150k. I don't want his business ................ but that's life.
So what the feck has this to do with 6 fork en' lines, nothing but I feel better now!
Agreed...ubless they are the hi-rise variety. But where do you get those rearsets?? They are fucking awesome! So far I have, frankly, been stumped by the sideplates on the GRiSO. But that's just lazy pondering when staring at the bike after burning a doobie....
Seriously if someone has an idea that isn't all rube goldberg, I'd be happy to draft it up in AutoCad.
Yeah, those plates sure got my brain wrinkled. But I haven't looked it over with any layout or measuring tools yet.
Yes gheezi - I am getting going as an addition to my regular job. Which has a schedule that leaves me with a five day weekend every third week. And I plan to keep my "day job" as long as possible to feed my 401 and keep my medical coverage.
DM
beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10198 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:28 am
FreshEgg wrote:
But where do you get those rearsets?? They are fucking awesome! So far I have, frankly, been stumped by the sideplates on the GRiSO. But that's just lazy pondering when staring at the bike after burning a doobie....
Seriously if someone has an idea that isn't all rube goldberg, I'd be happy to draft it up in AutoCad.
Those are ABM rearsets for a Triumph Daytona, modified to fit a GRiSO 1100.
Clicky link -> ABM
ABM make some nice gear, including some very nice height adjustable clip-ons.
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10704 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:03 am
beetle wrote:
ghezzi wrote:
If you start out real cheap just to get market share, the only share of the market you will have will be the tight arsed whingers.
Yep! Where's me suspenders? Snap! Snap!
This is why I've started sacking customers. Sometimes the first time I meet them.
Had a bloke with a Crapponord who I did a host of technical updates for, even though I'd told him to check with me before he bought the bike, he didn't and it had huge work needed for which I got 1.8 hours credited against my arts bill. When he picked it up he didn't even bring me a sixpack.
Fuck him!
Pete
DungeonMaster GRiSO
Posts : 1163 Join date : 2013-11-26 Age : 61
Subject: Re: 6th line fork height Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:59 am
So I got my GRiSO tuned up yesterday which included an ECU map update. When I got home my wife wanted me to take her for a ride. Since she has riding her own Gladius she has not been riding "bitch" for a while.
So, out we go and I gotta give her the "full taste" and I wind it out in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my first ride with a passenger since I dropped down to the 6th line. The bike steered MUCH better carrying a friend.
But, after we got home she confessed that I hit the gas so hard it scared her a bit. THEN she informed me that she needed me in our bed!!!!
Yes, Big, Bad Twins strike again.
And to conclude - I am going to try the 7th line down. I think I am Almost There.
Here's the thing. I dropped to the 5th line and I was pretty happy riding solo but not with my wife on the back. So. I dropped to 6th line and I like it better. And I liked it good with my wife on the back. Then I thought "I like it better solo down one line from where I like it with my wife."
So. I am going to try 7th. Errr, I tried to do that today. Loosened and tapped down right side. TRIED to loosen left side but one of the three bottom allen's stripped out. couldn't lower left. Can't ride lop-sided so I returned the right. I get paid tomorrow so I will buy one of those TV screw extractors at Bed Bath and Beyond and buy some new screws and then drop to 7th.
Get some better quality hex keys. I'm amazed at how many hex keys are ever so slightly undersized, CRAFTSMAN notoriously...
My favorite set is made by TITAN. They are at a nice price point and have the added benefit of what I call torque-flex®. Meaning that they flex ever so slightly when under load. I generally use the level of deflection as a good indicator of appropriate torque when tightening steel fasteners into Guzzi aluminium bits.
Very specifically, these are the ones I am talking about.
They also sell the tool hardened black keys like everyone else, but then you don't get the torque-flex® bonus...
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Subject: 6th line fork height 
Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:55 am
