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pauldaytona Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 477 Join date : 2014-01-07
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:58 pm | |
| abs bike? you did not put 3 pin in the 3 wire connector? | |
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:13 pm | |
| Tony, I'm using two Samsung devices, Galaxy Nexus phone and Galaxy tablet, both running 4.1.2. The phone is rooted, but that shouldn't make a difference. Both connect and work OK.
Have you updated to the latest version of the app? v1.03 I think it is. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:19 pm | |
| Mark, Yes 1.03 on both devices. Thanks for the idiot guide - obviously you hadn't taken me into consideration Paul - no ABS - is the third wire needed? what for?
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pauldaytona Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 477 Join date : 2014-01-07
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:23 pm | |
| No it's not needed at a 5am, but the ABS version of you bike has two diagnostic plugs, one for the abs with 3 wires. Then you can wait very long as it never connects there | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:25 pm | |
| this is the same plug I connect GuzziDiag to - so what gives? | |
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:35 pm | |
| Straw clutching here - Is there a possible problem with the pins on the 16 pin end of the cable where the dongle connects? The OBD-to-USB cable may have better connection.
Also, once the ELM connection is made, do you see blinken lights on the dongle? --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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pauldaytona Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 477 Join date : 2014-01-07
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:35 pm | |
| try if you can connect with his older monitor app. The one from the series of apps he made before | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:58 pm | |
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:11 pm | |
| You mentioned that you had modded the 3 pin to 16 pin cable with a cigarette lighter plug. Is the ground at the battery (or chassis) or the diagnostic socket? --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:19 pm | |
| Tried the older applications Paul - no difference.
Mark, you might be on to something there - I will run a wire to the battery from the -ve lead of the plug - and see what blows... | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:24 pm | |
| Tried both units in my car - still neither will talk to the application (iOBD2) through bluetooth - so I suspect my Samsung devices or Android, or the operator. Surely I didn't buy 2 dud dongles... | |
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:27 pm | |
| - Oz1200Guzzi wrote:
- Surely I didn't buy 2 dud dongles...
Never say never. I seriously doubt it's Android. It might be your phone, but to have both your phone and tablet not work? --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:33 am | |
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christian91 Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 3 Join date : 2014-04-27
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:28 am | |
| Hi, I'm Christian, the author of ScanM5X. If I can help you. first, have you tried to connect with the engine running, to be sure the ECU is ready? Then I quickly wrote a FAQ to try to understand what is happening. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Download “ELM327 Terminal” on Google Play, it’s free. Connect your ELM Send : atz ELM327 v1.4 ... :Your phone is connected with ELM-BT Send : attpa5 to control that your ELM Version know this command (Marelli protocol 5) OK Send 2130 NO DATA Cut power to the ELM and then power again to initialize the BT communication Send 2130 SEARCHING... UNABLE TO CONNECT : The ECU does not respond Turn Key OFF/ON or run engine, the ignition must be ON < 10sec., check your wires. Send 2130 61 30 00 00 ECU Connected, Enjoy If fail, send the log of dialog. Note: the new car don't use the same pin of ELM: CAN+ and CAN-, 5AM use line K. | |
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:03 am | |
| Christian, Thanks for this. I downloaded this application from the Google Play Store. I tried all of this today without much success. In fact, when I send an "atz" code (the old modem wakeup call?) I get "OK Ver 1.5" and atz and OK Ver 1.5 many many times, even though I send it only once. This means it is stuck in a loop on both my dongles? I had no success with attpa5 or 2130 codes. Any ideas on what is wrong? Maybe we should take this off line - my email is [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Thanks for any advice. | |
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davem Tiradritto
Posts : 309 Join date : 2013-12-17
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:17 am | |
| - Oz1200Guzzi wrote:
- Tried both units in my car - still neither will talk to the application (iOBD2) through bluetooth - so I suspect my Samsung devices or Android, or the operator. Surely I didn't buy 2 dud dongles...
I may have missed something here but have you tried the Torque app [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on a car with your phone and bluetooth connecter. You don't need the KKL cable for this. There is a free Torque version available. I had trouble with my first blutooth device so bought another and it worked on the car. Funny thing is I had to remove the Torque app from the phone before I could use the Scan app on the bike. | |
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christian91 Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 3 Join date : 2014-04-27
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:31 am | |
| When you use ELM with Torque or other OBD app on your car, the ELM device stores the last protocol then it will use the next time. But cars and our 5A don't have the same (CAN / KWP) and ELM take a lot of time to find. With ELM327 Terminal, the connection is manual, and you can wait. Torque and ScanM5X are not mutually exclusive.
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:13 am | |
| I asked Christian if he could increase the sampling rate and he has done it! Using the 1.05 beta I noted an approximate 20% increase in sampling rate. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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christian91 Fra Cristoforo
Posts : 3 Join date : 2014-04-27
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:48 am | |
| ScanM5X 1.05 is released in Google play.
Improving the acquisition frequency from 560ms to 460ms in Dashboard screen Display the lambda value in Trimmer screen Data Log enable/disable with button of Volume Up / Down in Dashboard screen
With my soft ScanST for windows and KKL-USB I get 300ms but PC + ELM327 I do not get better than 450 ms for the same measures.
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Mr Griso Tanabuso
Posts : 73 Join date : 2014-07-12
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:28 am | |
| Can someone please tell me what OBD 2 protocol our GRiSO's use? I need to know so I can get the right bluetooth adapter. I tried ordering the one davem mentioned in an earlier post but Amazon don't ship to Sweden....... So I have to buy it locally but need the protocol standard.
/Ron | |
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:58 pm | |
| IIRC it's ISO 14230-4 KWP2000. --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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Mr Griso Tanabuso
Posts : 73 Join date : 2014-07-12
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:55 pm | |
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pjm GRiSO Capo
Posts : 91 Join date : 2014-03-10 Age : 69
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:25 am | |
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beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:35 am | |
| Too nerdy for you, eh? --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ..[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.].In GRiSO we trust! . | |
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10712 Join date : 2013-05-29 Age : 67
| Subject: Re: el cheapo datalogging Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:06 am | |
| Nothing to be ashamed of. I struggle with the nerdy stuff. I go all pronathous jawed and mono-browed when these blokes start talking Nerd..... Pete | |
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