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I had another similar tank pad that was black,
but I never really liked the look. I much prefer the see-through variety to
provide some protection from my locking tank bag.
diedel GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:02 pm
Never had a clue what this tank protector thingy is all about. Outbreak of iron dicks, stone cold eggs or what else …
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Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:08 pm
Just a word of warning. Those CARC 'Protectors' mount on the brake mounting lugs on the casting. In the event of a heavy blow they will snap them off or at least crack them. You can't buy the cases separately so IMHO they'll actually do more harm than good in the event of an crash. They also add u sprung weight to an already hefty component.
Pete
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:17 pm
Pete, was about to send your CARC housing back but have another contact who can potentially make a stick on sacrificial carbon fibre housing protector. Only negative I can see so far is carbon is not a good conductor for heat, so the question to you is, "What temp does our diff run at and how much higher can we safely go before oil breaks down prematurely"?
If this all works out then we could try for a 1200 8V head protector.
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:20 pm
Even if you thrash the bejasus out of an 8V the bevelbox shouldn't get hot enough to damage CF.
Daves-i-Know Grignapoco
Posts : 173 Join date : 2015-07-24 Age : 60
Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:36 pm
diedel said;'Never had a clue what this tank protector thingy is all about. Outbreak of iron dicks, stone cold eggs or what else ....'
Zippers, belt buckles and tank bags, diedel, zippers, belt buckles and tank bags.......and the fact that I have throbbing razor sharp foreskin.
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:26 am
Pete Roper wrote:
Even if you thrash the bejasus out of an 8V the bevelbox shouldn't get hot enough to damage CF.
The "HOT" carbon fibre is not a problem, the fact it doesn't dissipate heat means the CARC housing (if partially covered with carbon fibre) will not be able to dissipate heat as efficiently. Therefore the oil temp inside would increase. My guestimation is the diff gets up to about 70-75*C.
I have already noticed with c/f wheels fitted, the rim retains heat and the tyres run slightly warmer, a good thing on cold wet days. Also, because of my 4340 axle, and alloy hubs attached to the centre of the c/f wheel, these bits retain heat and the diff is quite warm to the touch. The spokes of the carbon wheel remain cool, hence my observation that c/f is not a good conductor of heat, like alloy.
These are the extra metal bits that are currently attached to my crownwheel. The disc is the only real means of dissipating heat. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]" />
beetle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:48 am
I have been debating whether to get one of these as a nervous-nelly preventative measure in keeping the GRiSO logo from peeling...
Looks good!
bjor Biondino
Posts : 208 Join date : 2021-11-17
Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:15 pm
Pete Roper wrote:
Just a word of warning. Those CARC 'Protectors' mount on the brake mounting lugs on the casting. In the event of a heavy blow they will snap them off or at least crack them. You can't buy the cases separately so IMHO they'll actually do more harm than good in the event of an crash.
Hi Pete,
I'm in process of buying my first GRiSO and am wondering about all sorts of things. The bike has left it's previous owner in Ireland and will be stored with a friend in Holland until i can drive it home to Norway in spring. I have -and have had- several Guzzis, but intend to grow old with this one. That's why I look at ways of protecting it, in case... I see you warn against CARC protectors, and what you write sounds logic. First question, how exposed to damage is the CARC in case of a tip over or a minor crash, is a protector needed? If needed, I found through another link one with some kind of a rubber buffer in front to protect the CARC if the protector should be pressed in. Could this be enough to avoid the lugs from beeing damaged? [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Pete Roper wrote:
They also add u sprung weight to an already hefty component.
I see bikes with both protector and numberplate holder fixed to the brake mounting. Other than looking a bit clumsy and obviously endanger the brake mounting lugs, what would this extra weight do to the bike? Would it effect how the shock works?
Cheers, Bjørn
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:25 pm
Anything that adds mass to the rear wheel and swingarm increases the unsprung weight and should be avoided. In reality there is so much mass in the wheel, brake and bevelbox that the addition of a loop of mild steel tubing will probably be of little consequence.
I'm not a fan of any of these devices. If you are worried the Stucchi type plastic protectors or something similar to Evans cover is probably the best. If the worst women to the worst it probably wouldn't be too hard to find an undamaged case, I have several, if cosmetic perfection is important for you.
bjor Biondino
Posts : 208 Join date : 2021-11-17
Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:29 pm
Thanks Pete. No it's a thing to be used, and it doesn't matter if it shows, - a little at least... If it's only there to prevent cosmetical damage and not to prevent the case from being destroyed, I'll probably skip it.
beetle GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:21 pm
. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] . In GRiSO we trust! .
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Street L'Innominato
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:04 am
Which came first, the women, or...?
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:26 am
I really should proofread before hitting send….
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lcjohnny GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:02 am
Bjor has really good manners and really good english
He translated round "the worst women" and did not mention it lol
bahamazoo GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:19 am
if only had you had just typed "poofread"...
Pete Roper GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:40 am
You can get fucked!
bjor Biondino
Posts : 208 Join date : 2021-11-17
Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:32 am
lcjohnny wrote:
Bjor has really good manners and really good english
He translated round "the worst women" and did not mention it lol
It's risky business to make jokes on others in a foreign language, easy to be misinterpreted... Better leave it to the natives... But thanks for good words
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Steak Godfather
Posts : 3154 Join date : 2013-05-28 Age : 59
Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:53 am
bjor wrote:
lcjohnny wrote:
Bjor has really good manners and really good english
He translated round "the worst women" and did not mention it lol
It's risky business to make jokes on others in a foreign language, easy to be misinterpreted... Better leave it to the natives... But thanks for good words
I don't know about that. We met two spectacular Norwegians traveling through Seattle on their round the world Nimbus tour, King Croesus Contempt for Death Tour. Laughed an awful lot that weekend, those were a couple of funny dudes. Klaus and Torvald... A little bit of Akavit really got us going!
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2012 MOTO GUZZI GRiSO 1200SE
2013 MOTO GUZZI STELVIO 1200NTX - Orange Blossom Special
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Street L'Innominato
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:25 am
It was Klaus and Tormod, but no matter. We did have a lot of laughs with those guys, didn't we?
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:17 am
Steak wrote:
I don't know about that. We met two spectacular Norwegians traveling through Seattle on their round the world Nimbus tour, King Croesus Contempt for Death Tour. Laughed an awful lot that weekend, those were a couple of funny dudes. Klaus and Torvald... A little bit of Akavit really got us going!
That's a fantastic story! I've heard about the two, but never met them. What a trip, and on 70 years old Nimbus with open valves and all! Nimbus was the pride of Denmark, used to distribute mail across the country. What surprises me the most though is not that they came alive back home or that the bikes made it, but that they still had some aquavit left after having been on the road for so long... Strange...
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Steak Godfather
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:06 am
All that was available to us in Seattle was Linie, which is quite nice. Maybe a half dozen or so of us were sitting around, telling stories and enjoying the Linie, which soon ran out. Not to worry, Tormod went out to his sidecar rig and came back with a care package he had just picked up. After digging through it for a bit he came out with an aquavit that was really something special, but I can't remember the name of the distiller. It was quite good though, and before the night was through, that one laid empty as well.
It was a wonderful night amongst friends!
Here is a link to the chronicle of the entire trip: https://kingcroesus.blogspot.com
They passed through Seattle at the end of November in 2009 if I remember correctly. Street saw them off over Snoqualmie Pass as the first snow of the season was falling.
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bjor Biondino
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Subject: Re: New tank and Carc protector pics Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:12 pm
Steak wrote:
All that was available to us in Seattle was Linie, which is quite nice. Maybe a half dozen or so of us were sitting around, telling stories and enjoying the Linie, which soon ran out. Not to worry, Tormod went out to his sidecar rig and came back with a care package he had just picked up. After digging through it for a bit he came out with an aquavit that was really something special, but I can't remember the name of the distiller. It was quite good though, and before the night was through, that one laid empty as well.
It was a wonderful night amongst friends!
A good story on why we love what we are doing
Regarding the bottle Tormod fetched, could it be the one showed in the video, Simers Taffel Aquavit? A good one, but here's a couple of others that in my humble opinion are better. Just in case... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]