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rothbard Carlotto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:53 am
Thanks.
SMTCapeCod Tiradritto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:03 am
At risk of over-answering and being a fellow Noob sharing knowledge provided by senior members here- Yes, 7/8 bars but the throttle tube increases the right side diameter. I've used the Koso Apollo that are 7/8 & 1". They have a great thumbswitch, a quality harness with a fused power line. If you plan on adding a number of electronic add-ons, there's a custom built harness from "Eastern Beaver" in Japan that can accomplish that in a clean manner if you prefer not to build it yourself. Congrats!
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rothbard Carlotto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:47 am
Perfect. Those are the ones I've had my eye on!
rothbard Carlotto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:59 pm
SMTCapeCod wrote:
At risk of over-answering and being a fellow Noob sharing knowledge provided by senior members here- Yes, 7/8 bars but the throttle tube increases the right side diameter. I've used the Koso Apollo that are 7/8 & 1". They have a great thumbswitch, a quality harness with a fused power line. If you plan on adding a number of electronic add-ons, there's a custom built harness from "Eastern Beaver" in Japan that can accomplish that in a clean manner if you prefer not to build it yourself. Congrats!
Two follow up questions. Is the wire harness that's supplied long enough to drop down below the bike and then back up near the front forks? It seems like this is the most direct way to install them.
And also, how did you wire these from the battery? Did you need to remove the gas tank to install them or did you follow the path I described above?
Thanks
SMTCapeCod Tiradritto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:11 pm
Below the bike?-- do you mean under the tank? The Koso grips, if you do go with those, have the wires installed on the grips. The L&R bundles clip together via already-fitted terminal fittings in a 'y' and then run in one common, fused power and ground. I was able to remove the left and right fascias/engine covers and chose to run the grip-harness alongside an existing bundle that runs along the side of the bike, and as such did not have to pull the tank. The wires can pass through some void space by the battery into the underseat space, and are long enough to connect direct to the battery there. There's good info here, note the date of the original post- the Kosos pictured in the first post are superceded, or at least are different than the "Apollo" set. The Eager Beaver harness is as pictured. with the relays and fuses, its a great option if installing multiple add ons. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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rothbard Carlotto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:13 pm
Thanks so much. I don't think I'll have multiple add-ons. What else do you have? You keep referring to this wire harness so I assume you have more add-ons?
SMTCapeCod Tiradritto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:28 pm
I bought mine with fairly low miles and a lot of add-ons, which have been a mixed bag. Mine came with a few mods that prompted the prior/original owner to install a PCV & Autotune for tuning, and had a different set of heated grips spliced in. I wasn't pleased with the installation on those grips so I uninstalled and replaced them with the Kosos (and WYAIT: LED headlight and turn signals, louder horns).
As for other add-ons-- while I don't plan on going this route, I see that some GRiSO riders added audio/comms/nav, added auxiliary lighting, and/or heated riding gear. Only limit is the imagination - and inclination to fiddle.
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sideshowbob GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:16 pm
Escort radar detector on mine. Nice to know where they are.
Koso Apollo: ordered. Expected to arrive by April 28
Steak Godfather
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:45 am
Rothbard, the primary reason for utilizing a three or four circuit solution from Eastern Beaver is that you can access power directly from the battery via switched or unswitched circuits. It's a much more elegant solution that tucks neatly under the seat and uses the tail light to trigger the relay for "switched power." This is greatly preferred over cannibalizing (power tap) a circuit meant for an existing system like the headlamp.
In my case, I used the 3-circuit solution where the heated grips and auxiliary lights were switched and my heated gear were unswitched. Reason being that my heated pant and jacket liners would not be connected while I was not on the bike and thus could not inadvertently drain the battery. As an added benefit I could also use the heated gear tap to attach either a USB power port to charge a phone or camera and also to attach a battery tender for recharging and battery maintenance.
Currently I do not have auxiliary lighting on the GRiSO, but I do have a very convenient power source available should I need one.
All three circuits are also individually fused which further adds to their utility. It's simply a much more practical and clean way to add powered accessories to the GRiSO. Worth every penny and the initial effort to install.
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SMTCapeCod Tiradritto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:24 am
Well and to add to that...one attribute of the Apollos is that they are supposed to shut off automatically, and as such I wasn't all that concerned about switched vs constant power supply.....I tested them in the garage the other night, and after turning the bike off left the key in the ignition and forgot to turn the grips off. They did stop heating, but the LED indicator was still on and had run the battery down. I thought the ones on my V7 shut all the way off, but my memory is not all that reliable anymore. So, case in point for everyone's kind advice to use switched power supply.
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rothbard Carlotto
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Sun May 09, 2021 7:38 pm
Koso heated grips installed. Love em!
aria Montanarolo
Posts : 16 Join date : 2021-06-22
Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:27 am
Steak wrote:
Rothbard, the primary reason for utilizing a three or four circuit solution from Eastern Beaver is that you can access power directly from the battery via switched or unswitched circuits. It's a much more elegant solution that tucks neatly under the seat and uses the tail light to trigger the relay for "switched power." This is greatly preferred over cannibalizing (power tap) a circuit meant for an existing system like the headlamp.
In my case, I used the 3-circuit solution where the heated grips and auxiliary lights were switched and my heated gear were unswitched. Reason being that my heated pant and jacket liners would not be connected while I was not on the bike and thus could not inadvertently drain the battery. As an added benefit I could also use the heated gear tap to attach either a USB power port to charge a phone or camera and also to attach a battery tender for recharging and battery maintenance.
Currently I do not have auxiliary lighting on the GRiSO, but I do have a very convenient power source available should I need one.
All three circuits are also individually fused which further adds to their utility. It's simply a much more practical and clean way to add powered accessories to the GRiSO. Worth every penny and the initial effort to install.
Is the supplied connector compatible with the GRiSO rear light connector? or is it just specific to the VSTROM
Papa Lazarou GRiSO Capo
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Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:45 am
Stuff heated grips. You freeze your hands on the outside and overheat on the inside. Get some decent heated gloves.
kiwi dave GRiSO Capo
Posts : 735 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 77
Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:38 pm
Papa Lazarou wrote:
Stuff heated grips. You freeze your hands on the outside and overheat on the inside. Get some decent heated gloves.
Running from a battery in your pocket, yes. Otherwise you're tethered to the motorcycle, and you know you will forget this when you dismount.
beetle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 10200 Join date : 2013-09-30
Subject: Re: Heated Grips? Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:19 pm
If you have the right heated gear, the cables tethering you to the bike will pull apart easily enough when you dismount, even if you forget. Speaking from experience.