Subject: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 4:39 am
While I was repairing the leaky oil breather hose I must had pulled my SET button connection loose somewhere because it stopped working on the same day. Can someone tell me where the connector lies so I can save myself a lot of random looking?
I did read the post about the switch dying. I presume it's just a simple normally-open push switch. If that's the case couldn't I just replace it with a waterproof equivalent?
Steak Godfather
Posts : 3154 Join date : 2013-05-28 Age : 59
Subject: Re: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 8:33 am
When you say SET button, are you referring to the menu toggle on the front of the left grip switchgear?
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sidrat GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
Subject: Re: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 1:23 pm
EricS wrote:
While I was repairing the leaky oil breather hose I must had pulled my SET button connection loose somewhere because it stopped working on the same day. Can someone tell me where the connector lies so I can save myself a lot of random looking?
I did read the post about the switch dying. I presume it's just a simple normally-open push switch. If that's the case couldn't I just replace it with a waterproof equivalent?
yes you can replace the switch, just needs soldering in, i bought a whole bunch until i found one that worked!
kiwi dave GRiSO Capo
Posts : 735 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 77
Subject: Re: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 1:34 pm
I chased this issue on a Norge once, and it turned out to be a dicky connection at the dashboard plug. Inserting it in and out a few times was enough to fix it. A lot easier to check first, too.
waterbottle GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1785 Join date : 2015-02-02 Age : 63
Subject: Re: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 3:38 pm
It's a white multi- pin connector under left side cover near ignition coil
EricS Biondino
Posts : 221 Join date : 2017-02-10
Subject: Re: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 5:58 pm
Steak wrote:
When you say SET button, are you referring to the menu toggle on the front of the left grip switchgear?
yes, that's the one
EricS Biondino
Posts : 221 Join date : 2017-02-10
Subject: Re: SET button not working Mon May 08, 2017 5:59 pm
waterbottle wrote:
It's a white multi- pin connector under left side cover near ignition coil
That's where I was messing around with the oil leak repair. I believe I may have disconnected it to get at the tubes so maybe I didn't completely seat it on the reconnect.
EricS Biondino
Posts : 221 Join date : 2017-02-10
Subject: Re: SET button not working Wed May 10, 2017 6:37 pm
OK, checked the connector and it was tight. I put an meter across the all combinations of the three leads on the switch side and pressing the button, never closed the circuit. Safe to assume my switch crapped out or should I check a different way? It it possible to open it up w/o destroying the internals?
guzziownr Nibbio
Posts : 634 Join date : 2013-12-23
Subject: Re: SET button not working Wed May 10, 2017 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: SET button not working Wed May 10, 2017 7:28 pm
Pretty sure I've got a good'n too.
sidrat GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
Subject: Re: SET button not working Thu May 11, 2017 4:03 am
EricS wrote:
OK, checked the connector and it was tight. I put an meter across the all combinations of the three leads on the switch side and pressing the button, never closed the circuit. Safe to assume my switch crapped out or should I check a different way? It it possible to open it up w/o destroying the internals?
yes you can take them apart and solder in a new switch, they are only a couple of $$/££ online. If you unscrew the switch from the handlebar then you can prise off the black plastic cover from the back, you will find that it is sealed/waterproofed in place but with a bit of patience with a sharp knife you can get the old one out. It has six prongs but only uses two, just like the replacements.
EricS Biondino
Posts : 221 Join date : 2017-02-10
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri May 12, 2017 4:39 am
sidrat wrote:
yes you can take them apart and solder in a new switch, they are only a couple of $$/££ online.
Can you suggest a particular switch and where to find it? I took a quick look online and there are thousands...
sidrat GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri May 12, 2017 5:10 am
I bought so many trying to find something to fit, that i cannot find the original purchase now, but these look like the ones.
EricS Biondino
Posts : 221 Join date : 2017-02-10
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri May 12, 2017 1:50 pm
Well it appears some combination of wire giggling and prayerful incantations has re-energized the stitch. Seems to be working fine now but I'll pick up a couple replacements should it decide to punish me again.
Lemppari Grignapoco
Posts : 127 Join date : 2015-09-03 Age : 67
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:12 am
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Starting the set button repair one-handed & ham-fisted (I'm right handed)
Lemppari Grignapoco
Posts : 127 Join date : 2015-09-03 Age : 67
Subject: Re: SET button not working Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:29 pm
Set button working again after some pathetic looking soldering. Luckily it is not visible outside
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Oz1200Guzzi Don Abbondio
Posts : 6086 Join date : 2014-03-13 Age : 69
Subject: Re: SET button not working Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:06 pm
Winner!
Soldering is an art form that is akin to oxy welding aluminium (note correct spelling here - now ducks for cover).
I have been doing it for 45 years and still make it look like a seagull shat on it sometimes - poor eyesight does not help, nor does fumble fingers - growing old sucks, big time!
Lemppari Grignapoco
Posts : 127 Join date : 2015-09-03 Age : 67
Subject: Re: SET button not working Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:24 pm
Oz1200Guzzi wrote:
Winner!
Soldering is an art form that is akin to oxy welding aluminium (note correct spelling here - now ducks for cover).
I have been doing it for 45 years and still make it look like a seagull shat on it sometimes - poor eyesight does not help, nor does fumble fingers - growing old sucks, big time!
The one and only time I tried to MIG-weld something was to mend a broken luggage rack years ago. The wire I used was too thin for the feed jet and I managed to create a blob with multiple spikes that had a strong resemblance to a porcupine! But it did the job
sidrat GRiSO Capo
Posts : 1657 Join date : 2014-09-22
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:59 am
Oz1200Guzzi wrote:
oxy welding aluminium (note correct spelling here - now ducks for cover)
It was the British who called it Aluminum and then changed their mind!
kiwi dave GRiSO Capo
Posts : 735 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 77
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:27 pm
sidrat wrote:
It was the British who called it Aluminum and then changed their mind!
There must have been a reason they did this. Perhaps they know something the rest of the world is ignorant to.
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FrontRangeRider Grignapoco
Posts : 159 Join date : 2018-02-09 Age : 70
Subject: Re: SET button not working Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:02 pm
The SET button stopped working yesterday when I was scrolling through menu items. I can still reset the odometer in mode 1 or mode 2 but the quick press to toggle from trip odometer to mileage to trip time, etc. does not work. Does anyone have suggestions for troubleshooting or is a new switch replacement the only solution? Thanks, Alden
kiwi dave GRiSO Capo
Posts : 735 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 77
Subject: Re: SET button not working Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:45 pm
Looking at the wiring diagram, the Trip1, Trip2 & Mode positions all share the same brown wire from pin 18 of the instrument panel. Since the first two work, it's unlikely to be a connection issue here.
This shifts the suspicion to the Mode connection from the LH switch to pin 8 of the instrument panel via initially a pink/yellow cable, and then a yellow/grey cable. I suggest you trace this through, especially the junction of the two wires.
Of course it could always be a faulty LH switch or the instrument panel, but I would check this path first.
FrontRangeRider Grignapoco
Posts : 159 Join date : 2018-02-09 Age : 70
Subject: Re: SET button not working Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:15 am
kiwi dave - Thank you; I'll give it a shot.
Kiwi_Roy Nibbio
Posts : 519 Join date : 2017-11-09
Subject: Re: SET button not working Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:42 pm
I suspect mine is US as well, sometimes it takes ages to get it to register. I was thinking about wiring in a reed switch, they have hermetically sealed contacts. The switch can be activated with a small magnet through the Aluminium or Plastic.
FrontRangeRider Grignapoco
Posts : 159 Join date : 2018-02-09 Age : 70
Subject: Re: SET button not working Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:28 am
Before I got a chance to troubleshoot my switch, I went for a ride and lo and behold, it is working again. I’ll probably leave well enough alone before I check the connectors. Or the impending 3-5 days if snow may force me into the shop doing something GRiSO related so I don’t lose my mind. I am SO done with winter...