Hello from France Sud Ouest

Hello everyone.

I'm happy to have access to your forum.
I live in the south west of France and I drive a Stelvio 2009 A5 engine.
old distribution suivers flat tappet.
I changed one time distribution to 30 000 km with flat tappet always, there were no rolls when I did it.
Today 60 000km, we'll see .........
The bike is working perfectly.

I make revisions myself, it's pretty easy.

Maybe one day I would buy a GRiSO .....
Beautiful motorcycle GRiSO

Sorry for my bad English.

jean cool

Welcome Jean. I'm actually going to be stripping out a cambox for a bloke in the South of France in two days time! . He's visiting from Scotland and his bike started making funny noises! Poor fella. He'll have to get it back to Scotland somehow and he won't be riding it!

Pete

Hi Pete

No doubt the distribution has to be redone.
You work all over the world to repair the bikes ?
He is lucky to be you who repairs his motorcycle.
For many concession Guzzi have not reputable.

Bienvenue sur le forum, Jean!

And, Pete works for food, so what better place for that than France.

Bill

Hi Bill
Yes exactly, in France we eat well.
But much wine and we drink  

Welcome Jean!

Pete also likes a beer...

jean cool wrote:

But much wine and we drink  

You are among friends here then. Salut!

Hello everyone

Well !
Thank you for your warm welcome.

I think reading the forum of information will be very exciting.
I sometimes have trouble understanding each word in the technical details and also the description of the mechanical problems cited by guzzistes.
(Je ne parle pas très bien anglais, sorry).
But as they say in France, "the ridicule does not kill."
So who cares if I make errors of interpretation.
Help google  

A bientôt !.
Ciao !
GoodBye !

Je suis un pauvre Australien et mon français est atroce - vous serez bien ici

You are all good Jean Cool!

Hello from a fellow newbie, Jean. I just joined recently myself.

Bienvenue Jean! Don't miss our wine thread in the Darkened Recess!

Nice new avatar, LBC, R.I.P. Gene Wilder.

The Waco Kid. Willy Wonka. One of my heroes since I was a tot.


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thanks guys
I think the posts this forum will be very informative.

Hi jean, may I say you got a warm welcome, most newbies are advised to fuck off and get there shit heaps rollerised

chris

Hi chris.

I do not intend rollérisé my Stelvio.
No, I would not do that.
I stay with flat tappet, It works so well with.
You know why! ...... Because a full engine opportunity is less than a C Kit
And then I have a lot of flat tappet + AAC nine pieces in a carton.

At worst I would buy another bike, bah! you need to consume.
Everything eventually wear on a motorcycle, and change is a new pleasure

A bientôt.

loving the Avatar.

Quality humour.



Chris

OK, I think you're foolish if you like the bike. Your choice. Waste of a good engine though.

Pete

Hi Pete.
I am not foolish

It's just my choice.
And I'm not alone in this choice.
We want to see how far we can go with this A5 engine as the source of its construction ..
I know of a few exceptions that have passed the 100,000 km with the same engine and flat tappet change only 1 time.
After when the engine is ruined, it puts another engine opportunity that costs less than the kit C .
Or possibly I buy another motorcycle for a change, a GRiSO can be ?.

But I understand your point of view
See you soon.

OK, but your worldview is diametrically opposite to mine. I hate to see good technology and work thrown away.

As for engines working for a long time? Mine lasted 80,000km before I learnt the awful truth. There were no detectable signs of damage without pulling the cambox to have a look. Given the fact that pulling a cambox takes twenty minutes and on every single flat tappet engine I've inspected in this way has shown damage it seems pretty obvious to me that even though there may be no evidence of a problem in terms of how the bike runs, (The performance degradation is slow and therefore hard to notice on an everyday rider.) as soon as it is *Fixed* you'll immediately be able to pick the improvement.

Look, it's your choice. But please don't try and convince other owners it's a red herring without any evidence and I'm afraid at the moment you have experience of one bike, yours, and a lot of hearsay while it seems you've never actually undertaken an inspection.

Pull your left hand cambox. Have a look. That's all I ask. Oh, and honesty.

Pete

Am loving this  Manufacturers fcuk up it`s a human thing, some people like to push the limits till something fails... just for the hell of it. Fcuk all is perfect. You make your choice. I listened I rollerised who`s to say this mod will last for 80k KM?

jus sayin

BTW Stelvios get good comments on UKGSER

Plenty of roller motors that are over 100,000 Km now Scott. Also the roller top end was first launched in the Cali 14 in 2012 so it's been in production for nearly half a decade. I have yet to hear of a solitary failure related to the roller tappets or their associated hardware. Perversely it seems like some people actually want anything new or different from Guzzi to fail! God knows why? I can only assume that they want the brand to fail and the name to die so they can sit back and expound on how wonderful things used to be and how Guzzi never built anything worth owning since 1974!

It's bizarre!

Hello
How could I say .....

On the substance, I agree with you Pete, the flat tappet all go to the more or less long-term failure.
From a mechanical point of view, it must rollérised as fast for all these engines that use the DLC.
Then the end other vital parts of engine.  


I'll try to explain why some people make different choices.
But do not you think it will be a little long here on the forum.
Ideally, I come to drink one or two beers with you, even as it may be 3, long history   .
We should see things in context, about my life, how many kilometers I make a year, is what I still want to ride many miles on this bike.
Brief, know much information about my life to understand what I decide.

So I say to all, if you can rollérised, do it, but I have made a different choice for personal reasons.
Let's say that I see things from a different angle.

Great respect for each point of view.

jcool

Pete Roper wrote:

Plenty of roller motors that are over 100,000 Km now Scott. Also the roller top end was first launched in the Cali 14 in 2012 so it's been in production for nearly half a decade. I have yet to hear of a solitary failure related to the roller tappets or their associated hardware. Perversely it seems like some people actually want anything new or different from Guzzi to fail! God knows why? I can only assume that they want the brand to fail and the name to die so they can sit back and expound on how wonderful things used to be and how Guzzi never built anything worth owning since 1974!

It's bizarre!

 That is very satisfying to know, because I have apparently over invested in my 08 8v  according to current trends albeit that I suspect that year 12 and 13 registered 8v`s with flat tappets are technically inferior. Time will tell how the market views these bikes. I made the decision to buy knowing of this issue and had reservations about the upgrade initially. Me personally? I sit with Edith Piaf on this one and I do not regret buying or rollering. I would have this lump in the house, on a pedestal, illuminated if I could get away with it. In the short term it is going to get pasted all over Spain next month.

See Chris Smile.