GRiSO Fairing

sideshowbob wrote:

Here is the installation instructions for the Puig. I only needed a 1/4" spacer, not included, for each side for fitment.
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My concern of these headlight fairings come from my youth, when faired bikes were the minority, and aftermarket options were the headlight / handlebar fairing. These tended to have instability problems, in particular at higher speeds.  The extra loading on the forks area badly affected the steering.  The solution, in those days was frame mounted fairings.  I accept that likes and dislikes can be very much a personal choice.  
My question for those that have fitted fairings, how do they perform eg. above 100mph (disclaimers permitted   ), and in adverse weather conditions?

Bob

I have tried several different fairings.

1. Guzzi GRiSO ‘big’ screen
2. Dart Piranha
3. Dart Marlin
4. Stryker (current)

All stable up to $1.60+

beetle wrote:

I have tried several different fairings.

1. Guzzi GRiSO ‘big’ screen
2. Dart Piranha
3. Dart Marlin
4. Stryker (current)

All stable up to $1.60+

Mark,  after reading through this tomb of a thread, it was particularly you I had in mind.  Great work with the cardboard cut-outs

In amongst the thread I saw the link for the retro fairings, and somebody’s warning that they won’t fit.
I particularly like the below:

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This is reminiscent of the Le Mans fairing on my Laverda 750, and can’t help myself but I’ll have to run the rule over my GRiSO to see if it’s possible by frame mounting the fairing, and moving the headlight forward a little??  
My initial thought is that it caters for an 8” headlight… could be an excuse to play with LED’S  

Bob

I was at a buck 30 today, stable. I will say the best high speed screen I have used was the MRA speed screen. Kind of fuggly, but it earned its name.

One of the main reasons I like the 'Big' factory screen is that while it does offer some wind protection it also actively discourages me from cruising at elevated velocities for long.

Apart from the fact I'm very aware of my age, slowing reactions and increasingly poor judgement there is the fact that if I were to get pinged doing the old 'Ton' the fine would be eye-watering, they'd take my licence off me for years and might even crush my bike and throw me in the chokey, (Although the latter two are unlikely.). None of that sounds like much fun..........

snot fun AND the places where one might do that are decreasing at an alarming rate. Couple that with LIDAR and a blokes a gonner.

Better to cruise just a smidgen of 8 km/h of the exchange rate "should" have you reasonably safe. But, then again, sometimes throttle control is driven by the heart, instead of the head (aka temporary insanity).

Pete Roper wrote:

Apart from the fact I'm very aware of my age, slowing reactions and increasingly poor judgement there is the fact that if I were to get pinged doing the old 'Ton' the fine would be eye-watering, they'd take my licence off me for years and might even crush my bike and throw me in the chokey, (Although the latter two are unlikely.). None of that sounds like much fun..........

For me it’s not an age thing, but as I travel around the UK I am increasingly hyper-aware of potential enforcement activities possibly to the detriment of rider safety.
It’s also the same here, ‘ton-up’ is such a huge tipping point for the courts when the miscreant’s fate is decided. Gulp!

Oz1200Guzzi wrote:

snot fun AND the places where one might do that are decreasing at an alarming rate. Couple that with LIDAR and a blokes a gonner.

LIDAR… to me means Ground Penetrating Radar?  Can’t think of anything relating to Speed Enforcement.

Oz1200Guzzi wrote:

Better to cruise just a smidgen of 8 km/h of the exchange rate "should" have you reasonably safe. But, then again, sometimes throttle control is driven by the heart, instead of the head (aka temporary insanity).

Over here playtime increasingly means lesser spec roads which aren’t subject to Policing, and in turn means lower top speeds.  It’s a speed thing, they’ll never understand  

Bob

Bob, over here RADAR has largely been replaced by LIDAR as the speed enforcement tool of choice for our boys in blue.

RADAR does have some issues - some years ago I had a KR11 (for work purposes of course) and clocked a gum tree doing 80 km/h - looked planted to me but what the heck would I know. Radar tends to pick up the faster speed and if you are in the front of the line you cop it. LIDAR is a little more fancy and will tell you which vehicle (in fact all of the vehicles in frame) is the culprit. Only thing in our favour is LIDAR takes about 3 seconds to get its act together - maybe that's the time judicious use of your front brakes can count - well they are there for emergencies mainly, I like engine braking.

Yup, laser speed checks are tough to argue against. Vehicles are specifically targeted from the jump. If you're speeding and your on-board detector pings a laser signal, just pull over and wait... It's more of a citation identifier than a heads up to slow down.

Mine came with "Isotta".   Is that the OEM supplier?  
The LED is positioned a little aft of the leading edge of the shield- so the edges illuminate in a way that appeals to my 80s sensibilities.
Works as you'd expect from the size/shape- no protection for hands, can feel wind on shoulders and upper part of helmet, protects chest.  At normal, subsonic speeds..  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Not sporty, but it 'blends' pretty well for everyday commuting.  After perusing threads here I bought one of the EMGOs, but not sure I have the motivation to swap.

Bob, the quarter fairing you show would probably require moving the head light and using clip on or different lowered bars. I like the old school fairing look too.

I pulled the previous-owner-installed MRA touring windscreen off after struggling with the thing not staying in the position I set it in and it beating me up with turbulence at speeds of about 70MPH (113kph) and above. I’m trying out a Slipstreamer SS-28 ($200 or so, USD). It was sitting a bit high upon intial fit-up with about 2.5 inches (65mm) between the headlight rim and the bottom of the screen, but the riding behind it was quite smooth for me and stable at 85+ MPH. For my passenger it’s thus far been wretched at speeds over 50MPH.

Today I trimmed the lower wings off and lowered it by 2.5 inches. I may try to move it back just a bit but that will require a bit more trimming around the fork tubes. Here’s a composite photo, for better or worse. There’s about 12mm clearance above the side covers at full lock on the handlebars. Ignore the pink seat, it’s in the second phase of reworking and still needs a few more hours of riding before it is covered.

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I find the Dart Marlin does not reduce stability at all (i have been as expensive as £1.25)
But the GRiSO is a big bus and mine has a podgy bugger sat on it (100Kg)

The Dart Marlin is not an immense fairing and does not stop wind rain or muck on your visor

But it keeps the instrument pack dry and looks cool (imho)

Ignore the pink seat,

How?????
Ow, my eyes.
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A quick text update… I’ve stripped the front indicators off.  Offered the Givi A800N fairing (for Guzzi V7 Stone), it fits nicely around the headlight, and may need attention to its fit over the throttle cable?

The supplied V7 fitting kit has brackets on each side that use a combination of the indicator mount, and the headlight bolt.  These brackets are different to the V7, and need alterations fabricating.
The fairing has a 3rd fixing, from below the centre ie under the headlight.  They supply a plate intended to fit under the V7’s lower triple clamp. The forks on the GRiSO are wider set, and this plate willl need modifying.

I won’t be reusing the OEM indicators, shall replace them with LED fittings, possibly bar-end disc indicators from Motogadget.
After a winter of frustration with no progress, I can see light at the end of the tunnel

Bob
ps. Pics to follow

SMTCapeCod wrote:

Mine came with "Isotta".   Is that the OEM supplier?  
The LED is positioned a little aft of the leading edge of the shield- so the edges illuminate in a way that appeals to my 80s sensibilities.
Works as you'd expect from the size/shape- no protection for hands, can feel wind on shoulders and upper part of helmet, protects chest.  At normal, subsonic speeds..  [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Not sporty, but it 'blends' pretty well for everyday commuting.  After perusing threads here I bought one of the EMGOs, but not sure I have the motivation to swap.

Neat
By the way, how did you get your exhaust pipes black?

BobW981 wrote:

A quick text update… I’ve stripped the front indicators off.  Offered the Givi A800N fairing (for Guzzi V7 Stone), it fits nicely around the headlight, and may need attention to its fit over the throttle cable?

The supplied V7 fitting kit has brackets on each side that use a combination of the indicator mount, and the headlight bolt.  These brackets are different to the V7, and need alterations fabricating.
The fairing has a 3rd fixing, from below the centre ie under the headlight.  They supply a plate intended to fit under the V7’s lower triple clamp. The forks on the GRiSO are wider set, and this plate willl need modifying.

I won’t be reusing the OEM indicators, shall replace them with LED fittings, possibly bar-end disc indicators from Motogadget.
After a winter of frustration with no progress, I can see light at the end of the tunnel

Bob
ps. Pics to follow

Givi A800N with fairing held in place. It’s all personal choice, but I like the look of this Givi on the GRiSO. It fits well, and a bonus is there’s space to raise the bars by 25-50mm.

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Bob

I like that!

bjor wrote:

Neat
By the way, how did you get your exhaust pipes black?

The prior owner had them powder coated when installing a GTM shortie.  I first jettisoned the muffler, an Arrow carbon fiber unit, and now am waiting for a factory 'pretzel' (and shield) to get back from the powder coater here.  Will probably keep the Agostini on it.

Initial pic, the 800N looks good. I look forward to installed and side shots.  I have one on my V7, looks decent though I wish it was pitched back a few more degrees for that install.  I had the Givi painted matte and then used some protective wrap to add a stripe.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

SMTCapeCod wrote:

Initial pic, the 800N looks good. I look forward to installed and side shots.  I have one on my V7, looks decent though I wish it was pitched back a few more degrees for that install.  I had the Givi painted matte and then used some protective wrap to add a stripe.[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

The V7 fitting kit will help. The side brackets into the indicator / headlamp mounts fit reasonably, but not quite right. With changes to the mid ‘rods’, I can adjust the position / angle of the fairing.  The lower brackets also need alterations, with which I can find an optimal position.  Another option could be to use a DB screen?

I do like the position of this fairing on your V7.  Colour-wise I’m leaning towards staying with Givi’s gloss black, which begs the question of changing the GRiSO’s matt black/red to match. Get the fit right, then choose a finish

Daves-i-Know wrote:

I'm hoping that with a clip on for the odd touring

trip, I should be able to be a fairly non-buffeted human.

And finally, for the minimalist....

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While I would not want that on a GRiSO, i'm strangely attracted this this one...

Street wrote:

Since I got my new 2013 Diavolo Nero I decided to take the plunge and order a Yamaha Stryker Bullet Cowl and see if it would work on the GRiSO. I'm pretty pleased with the results. And it functions well too. After I finished the install I took it out for a spin and found it to be a vast improvement over the naked bike. I'm looking forward to a longer test ride, but I did manage to take it up to 80mph on the freeway and it deflected the wind nicely. I also like that it comes in a matte black finish, a perfect match to the Diavolo Nero's paint scheme. And I think it compliments the GRiSO's lines nicely too, both from the front and sides and even from behind where its shape mirrors that of the handlebars. Biggest downside? Around $300 U.S.

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The Yamaha brackets wouldn't work, but I fabricated some stainless steel struts like the ones I had used on the Givi fairings I'd had on the GRiSO Rosso. This provides a firm mount and eliminates any vibration. The lower edge is notched around the turn signals and this holds the bottom in place.

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I hope you like it!

That is the nicest one I've seen yet on a GRiSO...

Dilliw wrote:

A screen or fairing just doesn't seem natural for a GRiSO, but they do have their purpose.  I chose the Deflector DX as 1) it's less than $100 US and 2) it comes off in seconds leaving just the handlebar mounts.  Me on nice Feb morning:

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For an all clear, plexi one, I like that the best so far...

sasa wrote:

I installed a larger screen than a Dart Marlin today. Comfy, comfy!

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Nice! Who makes this?